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On this edition of Psyche's, in the 1950s, was the USS Franklin Delano Roosevelt the

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object of extraterrestrial observation?

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It looked like a star, but was much brighter, so it disappeared into the moonlight.

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Then, a Psyche's exclusive, our Heartland Ghost investigation continues.

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A family is forced from their home by a violent spirit.

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Something's going on in that house.

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It's strange activity.

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Plus, a Psyche leads twin sisters to the family they never knew.

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The minute she came to the motel where we were staying and walked in the door, it was

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just simply to always knowing her.

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And, a terrifying past-life memory forces this woman to relive the horrors of the Holocaust.

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We kept having this image of being in this other woman's body that I just lost my mind.

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Later, are extraterrestrials time travelers from our own future?

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Extraterrestrials manipulate the fabric of space and time.

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Welcome to Sightings.

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I'm Tim White.

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In 1952, military personnel stood together on the deck of a Navy flagship, the USS FDR,

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and watched as a disc-shaped UFO hovered above them.

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Three photographs were taken, and this sighting was just the first of many reported aboard

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the ship.

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Despite vehement denials from the Navy, many people who served on the USS FDR believe that

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she was a UFO magnet.

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Sometime in late July or early August of 1952, as an ensign, I saw a bright light and

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the forward of the bow on the right hand side, which would be the starboard side.

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The ship was on a shakedown cruise near Gitmo, Cuba.

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And I was down below decks, it was maybe approximately eight, nine o'clock in the evening, I think

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it was.

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In the early morning of mine, Vince, who had seen a bunch of men coming from the engine

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room compartment running up topside on the ladder, said, Red, why don't you go up there

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and see what's going on?

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So I followed these guys up three or four decks up to the flight deck, and we were watching

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this little object, like a light, that was following our ship.

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And then it came out of the sky at us.

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My friends called me to come outside, and we observed a bright light, quite high in

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the sky.

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It looked like a star, but it was much brighter.

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The light tracked at a high speed and came to a stop, altered direction, and accelerated

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to a high speed, stopped again, and it proceeded across the sky in this manner until it disappeared

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into the moonlight.

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These three men, Robert Coburn, Chester Grosinski, and John Lawrence, all served on the USS FDR.

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But each man was assigned to the ship on different tours, in different years, and with different

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jobs.

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And yet each man saw the same thing sometime during his service, an unidentified flying

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object tracking the Navy aircraft carrier through the sky.

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Others stood with them and witnessed the same events, which occurred over a 10-year period,

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but there is no record of any sightings in the ship's logs and attempts to find other

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eyewitnesses have failed.

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I know that during September of 52, there were a series of incidents during Operation

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Main Brace, which was a series of naval maneuvers, military maneuvers with other countries.

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And during those maneuvers, there were a number of UFO incidents reported, one occurring

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in connection with a fighter jet, which had been followed by an unidentified flying object.

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Harry Greenwood is the Research Director of COS, Citizens Against UFO Secrecy.

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He is also the co-author of the UFO Cover-Up.

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Greenwood has collected photographs of UFOs taken in 1952 from the deck of the flagship

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for Operation Main Brace.

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They were taken aboard the USS Franklin D. Roosevelt.

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On September 20, the newspaper reporter was on the flight deck of the carrier, had a color

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camera with him, and he said he turned down the flight deck and noticed a group of guys

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looking up into the sky.

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He ran down there and noticed a large spherical object hanging in the air.

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Everybody was looking at it, so he had his camera.

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He decided to take some shots.

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And when he ran the exposures, he said the object accelerated, took off at high speed,

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disappeared.

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They thought it was a balloon initially, so the brass called the various other ships in

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the area asked about a balloon.

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Nobody launched a balloon.

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Nobody knows anything about it.

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They listed it as an unknown.

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Possible balloon, but nobody knows where it came from.

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It was quite obvious that we had seen something.

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We don't know what it was.

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We knew that it couldn't be an airplane because an airplane could not start and stop.

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The rate of speed was too fast for a helicopter, and it was too erratic, a patterned track

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for a weather balloon.

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Leon Treadwell also served on the USS FDR in the 1950s.

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He recalls a UFO encounter he witnessed along with several other men while on anchor watch

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in Rio de Janeiro.

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Two ships are appeared to be ships, one above the other, maybe about two or three hundred

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feet separated, but the two of them, and the counter rotating lights.

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And all of a sudden a fireball dropped between the upper ship to the lower ship.

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Nobody knew what the devil was going on.

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There was actual radar contact on these vehicles.

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This painting depicts what Leon claims he and several other sailors saw on board the

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USS FDR that night.

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All officers, and these are representatives of divisional departments, they couldn't believe

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what they were looking at.

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Everybody signed a release statement that nobody outside of CIC would say anything about this

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for at least fifteen to twenty years.

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The CIC, the Combat Information Center, is master control for any Navy aircraft carrier.

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Here is where radar, mapping, target searches, and operations are conducted.

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We were just told to not say anything about this to anybody outside of Combat Information

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Center.

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The commander down in Virginia, when I was discussing this with him, he was on the ship,

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he told me that I wasn't even supposed to mention this.

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I just ignored what he said.

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It's one of my desires in life is to find these other witnesses that were up on that

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flight deck with me witnessing this object as it came on top of the ship.

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A lot of times I wish that this would never happen because all the aggravation is causing

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me.

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I had people that laughed and said, you wouldn't believe me.

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Really?

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I was there.

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I was there.

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I seen it.

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You weren't there.

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You don't know what it was like.

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But why would an unidentified flying object of this earth or any other spend nearly a decade

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tailing this particular ship?

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Prüman claimed that the FDR carried advanced nuclear weaponry.

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It was supposedly top secret.

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The sighting was well known to insiders in the government at the time.

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It was written about by the head of project Blue Book after he retired from the military.

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He described it in great detail.

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That's possibility that our weapons were of a sort that they were interested in.

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Of course, the carrier carried all kinds of different weapons.

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The FDR was the only aircraft carrier at the time that had thermal and nuclear capability.

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It was the only one that was allowed to carry the H-bomb.

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We would be the only ship naturally that would carry them because we would have the only

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method of delivering the atomic bombs.

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Since World War II, there have been a number of UFO sightings linked to nuclear storage

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and transport facilities.

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But these reports remain unsubstantiated.

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Large part because the government organization best equipped to investigate the sightings,

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the U.S. military, refuses to do so.

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I think they are probably covering up the incidents with the FDR because they're covering up all

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incidents of UFO sightings.

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I won't rest until I find somebody else that was on that flight deck with me.

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I'll witness that same thing I did.

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The experience of the crew members aboard the USS FDR may not be unique.

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Sightings is currently conducting an in-depth investigation into charges that UFO confrontations

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have occurred at three different military bases where nuclear weapons are stored.

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We'll bring you the results of that investigation on a future edition of Sightings.

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Next to Sightings Exclusive, a violent spirit continues its assault on a Midwestern family.

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I haven't so quick.

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I'm sitting right here and I didn't see them.

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It's on my side.

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This is what we know so far.

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A two-story house built in 1872 sits on a treeline street in the Midwest.

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Inside, many people, including members of our sightings investigative team, have reported

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feeling anomalous cold spots, eerie contacts with amorphous entities, and inexplicable electrical

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energy.

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One man has been plagued by spontaneous bleeding welts that he attributes to a vindictive

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spirit.

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What we don't know is why.

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What is causing this haunting activity in America's heartland?

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I can feel it.

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How did that happen?

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You don't know.

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I...

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Sally?

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I'm walking there.

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I'm walking there.

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Oh my God.

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Look.

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Look.

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It's forming right there.

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I have two scratches.

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There it is.

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It'd be okay if I sit down for a second.

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Why don't you sit down?

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Sightings viewers have their own theories.

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The wounds are self-inflicted, an allergic reaction, or psychosomatically induced.

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The victim, his family, and many visitors here believe the strange phenomena are caused

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by a vindictive entity in the house, and that is why this family has moved out.

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Not the empty house is still the focus of an ongoing sightings investigation.

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World renowned paranormal investigator, Kerry Gaynor, believes this case deserves the same

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careful attention he brought to two previous cases, the entity and poldergeist cases.

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With the family gone, Gaynor has a unique opportunity to determine if the source of

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the ghostly activity is the site or the family.

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Mori Schrag is an environmental engineer with the Industrial Compliance and Safety

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Corporation.

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He was brought in to search for electromagnetic anomalies, temperature shifts, abnormal radiation

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levels, or unusual levels of radon, carbon monoxide, or other gases.

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Nothing unusual was picked up, but there were still reports of ghostly activity by many

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visitors to the home, including the owner, a 20-year veteran of the local police department.

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My hand got real cold.

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I mean, it got real cold.

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I thought somebody was doing something.

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I looked back both ways and I asked everybody in the room if they had felt that.

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I said, it startled me.

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It kind of scared me.

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Would you all feel that?

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And I didn't buy any of this.

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I really didn't.

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Until that happened, it happened.

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We had felt the room temperature go out, which I figured was a draft in the room.

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But when it touched me, that was not a draft.

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Something's going on in that house.

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It's a strange activity.

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What it is, I don't know.

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And so far, scientific equipment has failed to come up with the answer.

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I thought we might find something as we took several different kinds of measurements.

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And we found basically that the readings were no significant deviations.

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The lack of scientific evidence in the face of so many personal experiences convinced

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the family to seek help of another kind.

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They asked that an exorcism be performed to rhythm of the entity.

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We're all holding hands and at one point my husband would grip real hard.

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We were told not to let go.

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Don't break the circle.

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And he just held on real tight because he was in such pain.

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It was odd because he's never really felt the pain before.

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But afterwards, we found out that he had been swiped at with a hand across his back on three

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separate occasions.

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That left, I think it was eleven scratches right across the center, upper portion of his

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back, his shoulder area.

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These are the scratches that materialized during that exorcism.

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And as long as the family stayed away from the house, the scratches didn't return.

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But during our investigation and an online computer forum with sightings viewers, the

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family dropped in unexpectedly.

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And within minutes, so did Sally.

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So did you feel it here or down here?

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Where'd you feel?

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Kind of like all across here.

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Oh, the whole face?

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Yeah.

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First, a scratch appeared on his face.

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Then, moments later, deeper cuts appeared on his back.

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Did you physically felt that?

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Yeah, that hurt.

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Describe to me again what you felt.

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Just a sharp thing, feeling like something's stabbing something in my back.

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You okay?

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Still hurt?

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We set up additional cameras and monitoring equipment, hoping to capture any further scratching

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episodes.

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It was while we were setting up that the victim, who had always wished to remain anonymous,

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told us he wanted to reveal his true identity.

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Sightings has made a habit of coming back to visit you.

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During that time, you asked them to disguise your appearance.

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Now you're finally allowing them to use your appearance.

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What changed for you?

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Well, it's something that me and my wife had.

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We talked about a lot.

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And it's a pretty religious town.

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And I didn't know what kind of feedback we'd get from this type of situation.

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The more we've talked about it, and since we have been on television a few times, and

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we've been getting some pretty positive feedback, I mean, the people have accepted it really

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well.

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So people aren't ridiculing you as much?

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No.

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We get our taunts every once in a while, or somebody will say something.

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But it's something that you just, I know what's happening, and my wife knows what's happening,

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and that's what's important to me.

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Now here's a new word right now.

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Right now.

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Right here.

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Right now.

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Can anyone get closer?

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Yeah, pretty close.

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I'm sitting right here, and I didn't see it.

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It's on your side.

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It's on my side.

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I'm sitting right next to you.

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This scratch right here, all the way down to here, was not on your face when we came in,

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because we saw this one here.

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We examined your face, your stomach, your back.

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Your hands are right here in full view of the camera, and in full view of all of us.

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If one of those hands had gone to your face, I would have seen it.

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It would have been on that camera.

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This is truly incredible.

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Truly incredible.

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This happened right here, right this moment.

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If this were true, typical Poltergeist phenomena, it would follow Tony to his new home.

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Now, he's only been in his new home a month, so it's still a little bit too early to make that kind of judgment yet.

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The story's not complete here.

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We've got a lot more work to do.

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Sightings will continue to investigate this groundbreaking case.

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New tenants are set to move into the house.

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We'll monitor their experiences and also follow Pam and Jeff into their new home

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to determine if it is the house or the people who are the focus of this haunting.

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Coming up next, a psychic reunites twin sisters with their lost family.

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It was just as if we'd always known her.

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There was no stranger.

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We just felt she was our sister.

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Since they were born, Alice, Hank and Agnes Nash have shared a special, some would say psychic bond.

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Their lives have followed parallel paths.

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They finish each other's sentences.

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If one of them is hurt, the other feels pain.

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It's behavior typical of identical twins, and that's how Alice and Agnes have always explained it.

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But when they were 51 years old, their mother revealed that Alice and Agnes were not twins.

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Alice and Agnes were born in 1926.

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They share the same likeness, the same birthday, and a powerful mental bond.

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We're exact, identical, mirror twins with hyper telepathy, which means it's almost like a form of psychic.

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I can see in my mind what she's doing.

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She can see in her mind what I'm doing.

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I can always tell you what she's wearing.

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She can always tell you what I'm wearing.

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If I go to the store to buy something, she can see in her mind what I'm buying.

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She'll go to the store and buy the same thing.

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When she went to labor, I went through the whole thing with her, and when I had my twins, she went through it with me.

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The girls grew up in Rochester, New York, and for 51 years, they believed they were identical twins.

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Until the day their mother shared a long, hidden family secret.

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My mother told me when we were 51 years old, about two months before she died, she called us to her house.

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And she says, I've got something to tell you.

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I don't know how you're going to take it.

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And she said, I realize that I do not have too much longer to live.

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She knew she was very, very sick.

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And she said, I think you better sit down.

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We both more or less said, what is it?

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And she says, well, you've always thought you were identical twins.

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Well, we are. No, you're not.

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You have two more. You are quads.

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There are four of you.

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And she said there were four of us that she had seen the four that the two were taking at birth.

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Their mother died before Alice and Agnes could find out their missing siblings' names, addresses, or even if they were boys or girls.

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For the next 17 years, they sought help from private detectives, adoption agencies, and law enforcement.

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Nothing worked until they asked a psychic for help.

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During the reading, what I picked up most importantly was the sister's name right away.

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It just flowed right out of me.

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But also a sense of sadness that their sister would really be reluctant about meeting up with them and connecting with them.

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Sandra also told Alice and Agnes that they would discover the whereabouts of this missing sister on Father's Day and meet her in the summer.

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Just one month after the psychic reading, during an appearance on the TV talk show, the connection was made.

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A little boy was watching that show and noticed a striking family resemblance.

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And that's when the grandson of our new sister saw us and thought we looked like his grandmother.

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And that's how this all started.

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That sister had also been looking for her birth family.

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She contacted Alice and Agnes on Father's Day and met them that same summer just as the psychic had predicted.

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The minute she came to the motel where we were staying and walked in the door, it was just simply always knowing her.

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There was no strangeness.

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We just felt she was our sister and that was it.

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The twins were now triplets.

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And as they began to learn more and more about their separate lives, they discovered a number of eerie similarities,

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although they had grown up miles apart in different families.

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Some of the similarities have been that she has a son and daughter, Mark and Maureen.

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I have a son and daughter, Mark and Maureen.

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Her daughter Maureen was born July 12, 1952.

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My son Jimmy was born July 12, 1952.

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I lost twin girls back in 1960.

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And her one child boy was born the same day.

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And I lost twin girls October the 3rd.

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There is another similarity that's a very marked one.

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My sister was married the year before I was the new sister.

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And when we got married, she bought her gown in her hometown in a specialty shop.

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I bought my gown here in Rochester in a specialty shop.

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She had hers altered and so did I with seat pearls and neckline.

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Our head pieces were almost identical.

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Baptismal records support Alison Agnes' belief that this is their sister.

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But as the psychic predicted, the long lost sister isn't ready to accept this new family.

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She is still looking for a paper trail.

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I guess it's overwhelmed her according to what she says.

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She doesn't want her name used or anything right now.

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But she admits to us that she knows in her heart that she is our sister.

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So now we're leaving it up to her.

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While Alison Agnes work on building a relationship with their sister, there is still a hole to be filled.

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There is yet another sibling out there somewhere.

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And psychic Sandra Sanfilippo believes it is a brother.

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I hope that we do find him.

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He would be 68 years old.

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He might look like us.

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He may have dark.

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Our hair is naturally dark.

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He might have gray hair because it's also gray hair in the family.

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His birthday should be April 6, 1926.

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Alice and Agnes are confident in Sandra's psychic vision.

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They will search until they find the brother who can complete their family portrait.

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Well, the most that we want to get out of this whole thing is to get the four of us together

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so that we can all love one another and be there for one another in thickness and in thin.

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No matter what the future might bring.

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Because if they are in pain or need...

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We want to be there.

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We want to be there.

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I want to know that they're going to be alright.

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Alison Agnes continued to search for the brother that they believe is out there somewhere.

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It's a reunion we hope to share with you on an upcoming edition of Sightings.

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Next, a terrifying past life memory forces this woman to relive the horrors of the Holocaust.

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Then, have scientists found a link between alien visitation and time travel?

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And, a psychic finds clues to a murder through dreams.

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Reincarnation is the belief that a person's essence, their soul, never dies.

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But he's simply transferred from body to body for eternity.

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Some people claim that they can recall their past lives.

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Taylor Sammons believed she is one of those people.

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And there's one past life she can never forget.

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Why else would she have vivid memories of her own death in a Nazi concentration camp?

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I was sure I was crazy.

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I was sure that the fact that I kept having this image, this memory of being in this other woman's body that I just lost my mind.

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She was developing some headaches, severe ones.

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And, in going over what was happening with her currently, I wasn't able to come up with any rational, therapeutic type rationale that would explain these headaches.

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Probably the fourth session after the headaches, she showed me some welting.

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And I couldn't explain that either.

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I got tattoos. They were marks on my arm.

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And they ran all the way up and they were sore and you could literally see numbers.

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When the therapy began to change based on this new symptomology, I was thinking, oh my God, what is it that's going on here?

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This something is very different, very puzzled.

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I guess I was very puzzled as to where this was all coming from.

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And it was as if becoming me, being born in 1957, in Seattle was a joke.

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It had never really happened the way it was.

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And that feeling alone made me crazy.

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Was at that point we both agreed to look at some regressive work and see if there was something else going on.

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These were the kinds of images that overtook Taylor Sammons when she began regression therapy.

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The nauseating vision of one regime's attempt to decimate an entire race.

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And the personal horror of feeling somehow responsible.

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And Taylor Sammons learned that she was not alone.

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Rabbi Ionassim Gershom has uncovered other cases of supposed Holocaust reincarnation.

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And has come to believe that they are real.

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Her story is very similar to other stories that I have heard of people having these memories.

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And often having a great deal of guilt, a great deal of pain.

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Through past life regression therapy, Taylor came to believe that she was once Catherine, a German Jew born in 1914.

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And that her death occurred in the German concentration camp known as Buchenwald.

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And looking at the genuineness of the memories of Catherine, I believed, and I still believe today, that they were very genuine.

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And what would happen would be that we would sit down and start the regressive process.

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And Taylor would then start to lose her sense of self right there and Catherine would emerge.

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And Catherine would start talking about events that she was struggling with and things that have happened in her life.

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Some very traumatic, very traumatic.

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And these were the kinds of things that Taylor throughout the years of knowing her therapeutically,

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I don't believe she could have known at all, nor could she have prefabricated in a regressive state.

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Among her past life memories was the name of a town, Luhnenberg, where Taylor believes Catherine once lived.

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It is among the remembrances she has chronicled in her therapy journal.

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I lived in a village before we lived in the city.

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To tell you the name of the city, I want to say Luhnenberg.

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I think this is the town square where nice things went on at first.

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And these were like buildings.

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These were the tops of buildings.

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They were rounded and they had something up here.

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I remember cobblestone roads.

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I remember because I've never seen them.

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The obscure German town of Luhnenberg actually does exist.

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It is known for its unique architecture, beautiful cobblestone streets and marketplace.

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There is a fountain in the middle of the square.

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These uncanny coincidences led Taylor to explore her memories further with renowned past life therapist Frank Baranowski.

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Together they uncovered more details of Catherine's life.

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She had two children and was pregnant when she was arrested.

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And this is the time when she feels like the children can't go to a concentration camp.

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And she decides to take their life.

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My children were five and under two.

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And then the baby was born in the camp.

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I killed my daughter first.

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I suffocated her.

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And then I remember straightening her out like she was the little teddy bear.

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Like she wasn't a person at all.

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And my son, I went to the chair, the rocker, and held him.

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Put my hand over his legs.

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And he held the knife.

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And I think he thought we were playing.

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Taylor believes it is the shame and guilt of Catherine that still lives within her today.

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At the suggestion of sightings, Taylor agreed to consult with Dr. Brian Weiss,

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a psychiatrist who has studied past life regression extensively.

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Let your breathing take you deeper. You're already very, very peaceful and relaxed.

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You'll be able to go deeper than you have before.

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In this state the memory is very enhanced. You can remember everything.

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This is for your experience. This is to help you. That's the most important part.

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After two days of intensive therapy with Dr. Weiss,

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Taylor began to relive even more of the life and death of Catherine.

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We are going.

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They are on the train.

448
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,520
What is it like on this train?

449
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The others are singing and praying.

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And it's dark.

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And it's crowded and there's children.

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Do you know where this train is going?

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Where is it going?

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Buchenwald.

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To Buchenwald.

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Yes.

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This is all important to remember and then to let it go.

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You can go in. You know you're safe now.

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During the sessions, Taylor had vivid memories of life in the Buchenwald camp.

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She had visions of medical experiments being performed against her will.

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Experiments which ultimately killed her.

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Go to the end of that life, that last day of her life.

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And let's see what happens.

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Can you see your body? What does it look like?

465
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:22,520
It is very thin.

466
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,520
The breast is missing.

467
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,520
I think the arm is missing.

468
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,520
An arm?

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00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,520
And there's sewing in there.

470
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It's just thin.

471
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,520
Okay, let's leave this all together now.

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During another session with Dr. Weiss, Taylor had recalled the last name, Leibowitz.

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And it was originally a family name.

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As part of the healing process, Taylor visited the Miami Holocaust Memorial.

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The images there were hauntingly familiar.

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And there, on the wall of remembrance, was the name she knew too well.

477
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:13,520
Although agonizing, Taylor's journey through Catherine's life has been a way to heal.

478
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Taylor's story seems similar to many of the cases I've had from the Holocaust.

479
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,520
The memories and the details and the emotion.

480
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,520
But the remembrance still seems to be very healing.

481
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,520
Whether they're validated or not validated, people seem to get better.

482
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,520
To lose their fears and phobias, to have more joy and happiness in their current lives.

483
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,520
This is the important thing to me.

484
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:47,520
If I let that healing continue, maybe for the first time I get to really live.

485
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,520
With the new clues she has uncovered in her most recent therapy session,

486
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Taylor hopes to locate any living relatives of Catherine and put the past to rest.

487
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Next, will new theories on controlling time in space lead us to alien worlds?

488
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,520
Perhaps an artist's face extraterrestrials may have the capability to open a hole in space.

489
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,520
H.G. Wells had the time machine.

490
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Sherman and Mr. Peabody had the way back machine.

491
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,520
And Michael J. Fox had a DeLorean.

492
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,520
The fantasy of time travel is one of the most popular themes in science fiction.

493
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:32,520
And now a tantalizing new theory suggests that time travel could someday be science fact.

494
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,520
When time travel becomes possible, it will not be the kind of vehicle that's important,

495
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,520
but rather the discovery of an interdimensional shortcut.

496
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,520
In these scenes from Star Trek, the shortcut is a cosmic anomaly called a wormhole.

497
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,520
We might have just discovered the first stable wormhole known to exist.

498
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520
Bring us about, Lieutenant.

499
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:58,520
In science fiction, time travel is possible because cosmic anomalies not only warp space,

500
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520
they also warp time.

501
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,520
But does science support the existence of these interstellar superhighways?

502
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,520
The average scientist says that the distances between stars is so great, four light years to the nearest star,

503
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,520
that star travel is simply impractical.

504
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,520
It would take them hundreds of years to go between nearby star systems.

505
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,520
Therefore, they are skeptical that we have been visited by aliens from out of space.

506
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Michio Kaku is a professor of theoretical physics at the City University of New York.

507
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:33,520
In his book, Hyperspace, Kaku suggests that there is a mechanism capable of warping time.

508
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:41,520
And Kaku does not rule out the possibility that another, more advanced civilization may have already found that mechanism,

509
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,520
the unified field that Einstein dreamt about.

510
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,520
The new wrinkle, which has caused quite a bit of excitement among theoretical physicists,

511
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,520
is that perhaps this river of time can have eddy currents, whirlpools,

512
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,520
and perhaps may even fork at a crucial juncture in history.

513
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,520
But where those forks and eddies are, no one knows.

514
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:09,520
The cosmic highway isn't marked with signs saying, wormhole next right, or this way to ancient Egypt.

515
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,520
At this point, just finding holes in space is more of a stumbling block than traveling through them.

516
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Perhaps an outer space extraterrestrials may have the capability, with the technology thousands of years beyond our own,

517
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,520
to open a hole in space and to begin to manipulate the fabric of space and time.

518
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:37,520
And that is precisely how Mark Davenport explains his belief that many UFO sightings are, in fact, extraterrestrial spacecraft.

519
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:44,520
In Visitors From Time, Davenport describes hundreds of reported UFO sightings and alien abduction cases

520
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,520
that he believes support his time travel theories.

521
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,520
So my hypothesis is that these people who operate these ships,

522
00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,520
their technology is so advanced that they've actually figured out a way to artificially warp space time,

523
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,520
the way a black hole does naturally.

524
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,520
And if that's true, it could mean they could be coming here not only from other planets,

525
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,520
but from other star systems, other galaxies, other dimensions that coexist with ours, parallel universes,

526
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,520
even our own future or our own past.

527
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,520
By collating and cross-referencing specifics from eyewitnesses,

528
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,520
Davenport believes he has compelling evidence that many UFOs are actually time machines.

529
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,520
We have the occupants of these craft are continually telling people, they ask them questions like,

530
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,520
what time is it? What is time? What is your time? What is age? What is a year?

531
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:43,520
And they say, you are caught in time and we're not. Our time is different from yours.

532
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Time is distorted in the vicinity of these craft and inside these craft.

533
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,520
A lot of times people's watches will stop.

534
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,520
We have people who say that their voices are distorted when they're near this craft,

535
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,520
like when they breathe helium or something.

536
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:06,520
So we have all sorts of indication that these things are in some kind of a field that warps space and time.

537
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,520
And one day, according to Michio Kaku, science will catch up with science fiction

538
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,520
and we will create a time machine of our own.

539
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:20,520
Most of my friends watch science fiction because they want to dream about what may be possible in the future.

540
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:27,520
Real scientists at the cutting edge, working on the unified field theory, working on higher dimensions, working on time travel,

541
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,520
these are the ones who are playful, these are the ones who let their imagination soar into hyperspace.

542
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Not all scientists agree with Michio Kaku's hyperspace theory.

543
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Eminent physicist Stephen Hawking has stated that time travel is impossible

544
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,520
because we've never been visited by any tourists from the future. Or have we?

545
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Next, a sightings update. A psychic detective finds clues to a murder in this man's dreams.

546
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,520
It really wasn't considered a dream to me anymore because it all seemed so real, like I knew them or something.

547
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:13,520
On a previous sightings, we profiled Charles Byerly, a man who has been plagued by recurring dreams of a brutal double murder.

548
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:19,520
He said that he didn't know the victims or the killer, and dream experts found this highly unusual.

549
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,520
In most recurring dream cases, the dreamer has a link to people in the dream.

550
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Sightings contacted psychic Catalan Ray to see if she could find a hidden link between Charles and his dreams.

551
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,520
It got worse as it went along. Everything became like a nightmare.

552
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,520
It really wasn't considered a dream to me anymore because it all seemed so real, like I knew them or something.

553
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:53,520
For more than three years, Charles Byerly has been dreaming about the real-life murders of 15-year-old Barbara Grimes and her 13-year-old sister Patricia.

554
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,520
The girls were last seen alive in December of 1956, leaving their Chicago home on the way to the movies.

555
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Their bodies were found a month later along a rural road.

556
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:08,520
I believe they've been reaching out. They still are. Maybe they're not at rest, you know?

557
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,520
Maybe they just want to find out who did it, who's responsible.

558
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Chicago police detective Jerry Schultz is keeping track of Byerly's dreams and feels there may be something significant in the strange recurring visions.

559
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:27,520
Detective Schultz agreed to consult with psychic detective Catalan Ray about the still unsolved case.

560
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,520
The first thing I do is take the victims and do a psychological profile.

561
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:40,520
In the case of these two girls, I went into the personalities to see why would they perhaps go with a stranger and get themselves into this situation.

562
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Then the other thing I do is look to see the suspect. Do they know the suspect?

563
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:53,520
I feel the man is probably in his early 30s. He gives off the feeling of late 20s, early 30s, somewhere in there.

564
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520
I feel that he came upon the girls while they were waiting for a bus.

565
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:03,520
I feel that they crossed over from the theater to a bus stop and then I feel they had to go to another one and that's where this happened.

566
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,520
These psychic visions mirror Charles's dreams in every detail but one.

567
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,520
Catalan Ray sees only one murderer.

568
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:17,520
I can smell alcohol on him, not only from that night, but like it comes out of his pores like he drinks a lot.

569
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,520
I can smell cigarette smoke on him.

570
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:30,520
I could see his hands and I could tell he was a labor of some type, a manual labor because they were all rough from working with his hands.

571
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:37,520
This man could very easily have worked for Santa Fe Railroad or for a company of that nature where he'd start with an S.

572
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:43,520
Working together over the phone, Catalan Ray received confirmation for many of her psychic visions.

573
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Encouraged, Catalan flew to Chicago to meet with Detective Schultz.

574
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:56,520
She led the detective to the site of a demolished shack where she believes the killer once lived and where he killed the Grimes sisters.

575
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:02,520
I felt it was a green shack. It was back among trees. It was like I could see a forest around it.

576
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:10,520
I felt water behind it and I felt that there were no lights of houses near so I knew it was isolated so the little girls wouldn't be heard.

577
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,520
And it certainly has everything I saw in my mind that fits the scene.

578
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,520
When I first started working with the psychic I was very skeptical, okay?

579
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Through my belief in upbringing, whether it be from a religious end, I just did not believe in psychics.

580
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,520
However, after spending several hours talking to Catalan Ray, I've changed my opinion drastically.

581
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:44,520
Catalan Ray has said things to me about this area and about the terrain out here, which only someone who knows this area quite well would know about.

582
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,520
And no one had told Catalan Ray that the site of the shack was only three miles from where the bodies were actually found.

583
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:59,520
I feel like he stopped and he brought them down, drug them down far enough to where people would be inclined to be dried along the tins just on the edge of the road.

584
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:06,520
Although Catalan Ray believes the murderer no longer lives in the area, she is confident he will be found.

585
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,520
I feel like he's still alive. I feel like he doesn't live here right now.

586
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,520
I feel like he lives in a state that has more mountainous terrain around.

587
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,520
I felt it was a state that started with an M.

588
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,520
With the clues that Catalan Ray has given me, I've got somebody in mind.

589
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,520
It's just something that I'm looking at right now.

590
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:37,520
The recurring dreams that plague Charles Byerling and the psychic visions of Catalan Ray each point in the same direction.

591
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:45,520
It's a direction that Detective Schultz is now following in the hope that Barbara and Patricia Grimes may finally rest in peace.

592
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:57,520
Officially, there is no suspect in the death of the Grimes sisters, but Detective Schultz is following up on the leads Catalan Ray has provided in a concerted effort to reopen the case.

593
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,520
The case is being held 24 hours a day at 1-900-933-7444.

594
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,520
Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind.

595
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,520
For Sightings, I'm Tim White.

596
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,520
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597
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,520
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598
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,520
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599
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,520
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600
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,520
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601
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602
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,520
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